July 30, 2006
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Drilling
The Senate may be voting as soon as tomorrow on the issue of offshore drilling. 85% of the waters of the Gulf of Mexico have been blocked from drilling. That may change on Monday. The thinking is that it may cause gas prices to go down with more oil available.
Some environmental groups oppose the plan because they feel it may lead to the “risk of oil spills, and threaten fragile ecosystems and tourism.”
Should the United States increase offshore drilling in the Gulf of Mexico in order to lower gas prices?
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If they can take adequate safety/environmental precautions, yes.
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yes….gas prices are getting out of control…and anything that can be done should be done to lower it
Yes, we’re buying the oil from there anyway, just now other countries drill it for us.
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No. It could (or more probably, will) hurt the environment, and gas prices are just going to go back to where they were when the oil from Gulf drilling runs out. They need to spend that money on developing alternative fuels. That’s the only way we’re getting out of this mess, ever, and the sooner the better. Drilling is a quick fix, and a waste of money.
No…we don’t need to increase offshore drilling to lower gas prices, we need to increase offshore drilling to reduce our dependence on foreign oil. Hopefully lower prices will come w/ that. It’s absolutely ridiculous that resources close to home are blocked from use.
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Seems like they could find ways to be careful and not have oil spils. With enough planning – yes.
no, they should put the money into research to create different engines and then mandate those when they find one that works. But they’ll never do that because it’ll hurt business… God forbid.
no. supply is not the problem.
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could work if they do it safely .. although the people who pointed out that the money might be better spent investigating alternate fuels do have a very good point.
As long as there are precautions and boundaries made and kept, i don’t see much of a problem with it.
what be really great is if they made more cars with engines that didn’t need gas or very much of it (yay for hybrids!)
the environment can be hurt just as much by drilling done by other countries, say those whose technological advances haven’t come so far as to allow 3-d imaging through fog for navigation and collision avoidance, as ours has. If they drill for the oil instead, wherever that may be, it will still be sent by supertankers to the U.S… so the risk of technological harm is much greater, and the prices are higher, as there is a tariff applied and the other countries are interested in making a profit. So, the environmental risk is not increased, the economy of the United States is bolstered, and our dependance on foreign oil is reduced… the downside? I see none. Tourism… offshore drilling affects it how? I do not understand this.
Yes anything to lower the price of petrol.
Yes, for pete’s sake, yes! Top 20!!!
Yes–cautiously.
We’ve drilled safely before, we can and should do it again.
Yes, they should. I don’t know if that will happen though. I think the politics in the Middle East may get in the way.
No. And we don’t need to spend it researching alternative fuels. We already have the fuels, we have the designs for the engines. Some of these have been tested in real life by individuals, and they work. But we won’t use them. I don’t think I have to point out why.
yes! gas would probably drop like 20 or 30 cents.
Not sure. Environmental problems or gas prices… I’d say no; the US is considered rich.
That’s a tough one… I think that it could help…. but tell us Dan… what do you think?
Without a doubt. There’s not much of a ecosystem in the Gulf of Mexico anyway. Besides, more Texans will probably become rich due to the business. Fantastic!
I don’t think so. I agree with tupology, “Suppy is not the problem.” Even with the price of gas you have in the USA, it’s still cheaper than here in Canada. I wouldn’t support drilling here either. I wish something better could be done than the oil sands out in AB.
What they need to do is work on bringing down the tariff on imported corn. Ethenol could solve the gas price problems.
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I thought the gas prices were just inflation for summer.
Summer + summer vacation + tourists = more money.
I don’t see gas prices at 3 dollars in Missouri.
No
I mean come on people we already know of an alternitve fual sorce but it seems only the rich can Afford it. Why because the cars cost to much. So if they dropped the prices of Hybrids then more people can buy them and oil will cost less because people dont need it as much.
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Gas prices??? I drive a hummer; it costs me about 120 bucks to get a full tank. What are you talking about???? WTF?? Everyone thinks gas is so high?? I get about 40 miles to the gallon before I must refill; whats so bad about that?
It costs more to get a gallonof milk then it does gas.
There is no gas problem. I use about 500 bucks a month in gas going to church and work. There is no shortage. Gas here is about 3 bucks a gallon where I live. Milk is 5 bucks a gallon. You pay more for food then gas.
Also a cars limits on how far it can go and how much gas it uses and will continue to use is vased on speed. The faster you go the more gas you use. Going this over and over going faster and faster makes your car use up more gas faster. If you buy a Hummer like mine and do the speed limits you can get 40 miles out of a tank of gas going the normal speed. However if you go fast and then faster and do this over and over then you are only going to be able to get 20 miles a gallon. Do the speed limit and you wont be going to the gas station as much.
I have this probelm all the time with idiots on the highway; I do 35, the speed limit while some idiot is burning up gas at 80 mph. Sadly at the red light I come up next to them We coveredthe same distance of space and highway the only difference is he just got to the red light faster to wait longer and burned up about a quart to half as much gas as I did. Hurry to sit and wait at a red light?? Whats the deal?? Why use up all that gas???
No they should not because its only IDIOTS who have a gas shortage problems. There is no real one.
yes…
absolutly not
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who cares. even if they did drill, gas prices will rise again in the next few yrs or so. i know, let’s ban automobiles.notesarcasm.
No.
i vote for alternative fuel……it is there and it works…..just needs to be funded……….but then again the gov may lose money on that…….it’s an intersting delimma……….cuz they could easily lower prices now if they wanted to…….someone needs to put a cap on the supply and demand rage
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Hell no.
Doesn’t the government listen enough to big-name corporations without this?
yes .. gas prices are way too high ..
It’s these environmentalist whackos that make us dependent on foreign imports. These high fuel prices are what’s stagnating out economy. Let’s keep the money here in the states and develop our own resources.
Oh, but there’s the politics to consider. The Envoronmentalist whackos are on the left. They know that higher oil prices from middle east imports will help them get their people elected instead of people on the right. They convieniently blame Bush and Cheney for the oil prices while keeping those prices high by fighting against lower priced domestic fuels.
YES and they should drill up in Alaska too, and those evironmentalists worried about “protecting nature” should realize that Alaska is HALF THE SIZE OF THE UNITED STATES. give up some of it to better the lives of Americans…
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God damn it, I do not care. I do not care what they do. Whatever they do, we’re going to end up destroying something beautiful, when really what we have to do is get people to stop using oil so recklessly.
I mean what the hell, people. STOP DRIVING YOUR CAR ACROSS THE STREET, TURN OFF YOUR LIGHTS WHEN YOU LEAVE THE ROOM, TAKE A SHORTER SHOWER, THINK BEFORE YOU BUY. HOW HARD IS THIS?!
I’m sorry, but fuck Congress. Instead of doing what’s best for the country all they can seem to do is do what’s best for their voters in the short term, bring home the bacon– but what’s the damn point in giving Alaska a pointless bridge when we’re going to hell in a handbasket nationally? The people in Congress don’t even know what they’re talking about. You can get up and blatantly lie and the majority of people will actually believe you! It’s ridiculous!
But at the end of the day, Congress should be doing what Americans are demanding. So what in hell happened to Americans being all independent and strong-willed?? If we actually wanted to stop being oil’s bitch, then we should STOP WAITING FOR CONGRESS TO GET THEIR ACT TOGETHER AND FUCKING DO SOMETHING. Because the long and short of it is that Congress won’t do anything unless there’s some sort of extreme emergency. And, as we saw recently, not even then can we rely on them. We can’t rely on anyone but ourselves. So if you think it’s ridiculous what they’re doing, then you stop using so many products that depend on oil. Don’t be like Congress, stagnating until the last possible second when everything explodes in our faces. Time and again we wait until we’re too screwed to think about the situation rationally. We’re always reacting instead of acting. For fucking once, let’s actually act. And not by drilling in Mexico, by making sense. If freakin’ South America– a very poor continent, and one that can never keep a leader for very long– can pull it together long enough to make sense of the situation, then shouldn’t we be ashamed that we can’t keep up??
For fuck’s sake.
Also, I agree with some of the commenters above, supply totally isn’t the issue.
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the better question is will it lower gas prices?
but’s not what you asked, so…
yes. they’re going to drill there eventually(aren’t they drilling in alaska?), so why not now? Let my parents not put all of their money into their gas tank.
Am I the only one that’s gonna mention Ethenol?? North Carolinian farmers are already switching over to CORN from tobacco.
Well, I think they should increase carpooling and public transport, and work on more affordable hybrid cars and alternate means of transportation…
Yes!
If it brings oil prices down, then of course, you know?
Would it belong to us or Mexico? Yes, though.
So far our government is still less afraid of Arabs than it is afraid of environmentalists. If or when this ever changes, we’ll pull out of the Arab world and put a lot of oil wells in the gulf.
The USA has no say on the issue. Mexico and Cuba are now drilling just a few miles off of US shores. We can drill and do it safely or we can let others do it any way they want to.
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yes they should. as soon as possible!
Yes. The Democrats try and block anything that will lower gas problems, and then they act like it’s the Republicans fault.
Stick to what you’ve got, America, and not what ain’t yours in the first place.
The whole world is feeling the pinch of the oil withdrawal, but we should be preserving our resources, not draining them up now.
’nuff said…
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If they can do it safely yes. otherwise, there are still things known as bikes around here.
no, it is only a quick fix.
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85% of the international waters or the US territorial water?
Either one, it’ll probably end up being a drop in the bucket compared to oil production in OPEC and Venezuela, for example.
The major issue here is prices. There are two inherent problems here in the US.
1) Gasoline is lightly taxed to the extreme compared to a country like Britain where 85% of the cost is from gasoline taxes. The tax part of the gasoline price is the STABLE part. Our gasoline price is very fluid since it’s barely taxed, which causes many of the issues we see. Prices go down, more buy and it’s a spiral down to nothing. There have been anecdotes and studies that lowering gas prices greatly increases turnout, even if it’s only like five cents less. Greater turnout = less gasoline for everyone which leads into the next problem.
2) We can get all the oil to lower the prices except there’s one serious issue. We have limited refineries. Most of them are along the aforementioned Gulf of Mexico for easy transport. Many were damaged or destroyed by Hurricane Katrina, diminishing our ability to refine the raw oil into the many different gasoline standards across the country. We need to build more refineries to process our fuel, but we’re still hampered by the many different standards across the country. A refining company has to make this formula for California, this one for New Jersey, and a whole another one for Texas. We need to consolidate the many formulas into fewer for efficiency. Thus we can bring more gasoline into the US to counteract the supply chaos when we lower the prices.
Why not? There are ways to preserve the environment and still drill. The problem comes up when certain environmental groups believe that there is only one way to handle this stuff – by not doing it. A balance must be kept, but properly handled drilling is a good thing. Take the Alaska oil reserves, for instance. Environmental groups show pictures of this nice forest with moose or elk or bears and say that this will all be destroyed if we drill. What they don’t tell you is that the place we want to drill has little wildlife and almost no vegetation. It’s frozen solid 10-12 months of the year. Not only that, but extra precautions will be taken in the drilling. It’s not the huge deal everyone makes of it.
yeah..
$3 is just too much
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Biofuels (ethanol and soy diesel are the main ones) are a good idea, as well. They pollute less and support the domestic farm economy.
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What they need to do is go back to the old school ways of solving problems…bomb the shit out of a country and then take it ‘a la pilgrim style. How about Iraq? Let’s just nuke it, wait 5 years for radiation/dangers to subside and then place an American flag on it like the moon. Then we’ll have plenty of Texas tea and Israel can have a homie next door. We really could use another state.
I think we should do it regardless of whether or not it reduces prices, that way we are at least putting our money back into the hands of other fellow Americans.
And I’m pretty sure our supply is fine, I mean, I’ve never been turned away from the pump by an “out of gas” sign, have you?
But in reality prices will never be low again, regardless. Don’t believe that then do an internet search on Tom Ogle. He invented a contraption that allowed a 5 ton Ford truck to run 100 miles per gallon. He’s in heaven now.
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they should start drilling there AND in alaska!!!
Yes. We need to increase our own capability to supply ourselves with gas.
Yes…
Duh…
But thanks to the EPA, it still won’t solve the problem.
Gas prices are not high because of a lack of oil.
They are high because of a lack of refined gasoline containing specialized formulations of chemicals that the EPA makes them put there.
That is why gas prices have actually gone *down* despite the latest turmoil in the middle east.
Contrary to what the media & gov’t would have you believe, gas prices have nothing to do with oil.
And everything to do with the EPA.
So be sure and thank an environmentalist for getting the nation into a mess that causes us to *have* to drill the gulf, and have no other choice.
To what degree? It would be nice to not have to rely on foreign oil, but it would be even nicer if we could find more environmentally-friendly alternatives to oil and encourage Americans to drive more gas-efficient cars. The expansion of offshore drilling would most definitely decrease the cost of gas initially, but it isn’t a long-term solution.
So yes, offshore drilling should be expanded, provided that it is very strictly regulated by the government.
Sure. But we also should work on reducing our dependancy on oil.
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yes. once we have cheap gas again, then no one will be complaining
i agree with hidden_sandwich
No, they shouldn’t. Once again, they’re being incredibly short sighted with a quick fix that has long term repercussions. We have hybrid technology right now. Instead of finding more ways for us to pollute the atmosphere, how about we take that technology and roll it out en masse RIGHT NOW. Gas prices will come down when the demand is less. Take away demand and we’d see the prices drop dramatically. Give us more hybrid vehicles and make them less expensive and you’ll see more bought.
NO DRILLING IN THE GULF, OF THE FLORIDIAN SHORES, OR IN ANWR!!
yeah as long as precautions are taken and if it will guarantee lower gas prices, but I am highly doubting that gas companies such as Amoco and Exxon are willing to lower their gas prices because they are bringing in so much money in profits right now and they don’t want to admit that gas prices COULD be lower, they will just make gas more available at the expensive prices that they are at today.
No. It’s a temporary solution, not even a solution really, to an ongoing problem. The U.S. should invest more money in plug-in hybrids, make any car company that wants to sell in the U.S. make their vehicles get 40-50+ MPG or make their vehicles plug-in hybrids (which is the MUCH better solution because we don’t use ANY gasoline at all), and build charge-in stations for plug-in hybrids for whenever people need to take long trips (over 150+ miles).
um the problem is not crude oil it our refining capacity. All off shore drilling does is put money in Bush’s buddies pockets. If I had a vote, I’d vote NO.
Plus when another Hurrican Katrina comes, the refinery will be blown over…so…it’s useless.
Just invest in plug-in hybrids and call it a day.
Not yet. Try to pull through with radical changes in energy consumption in America.
We did the same thing with food and such during World War II; we can do the same with energy, I think.
Any oil drilled from the Gulf isn’t going to actually make it to the US for around 5-7 years. We aren’t going to see any immediate drop in oil prices or a increase in supply.
“Dependece on foreign oil” is a myth and is no problem. Oil is a world market. It’s that simple. If we were to use all our own oil, our oil prices would still be susceptable to world happenings in oil (i.e. Venezuala has another coup, OPEC cuts production, etc). We cannot isolate ourselves from the world market. Solely from the area of diversity of supply, “dependence” on foreign oil is a GOOD thing. Why would we want all of our oil coming from a few sources (Gulf, Alaska, Texas, Continential Shelf)? By having a diversity of sources (foriegn + domestic) we have greater security.
No. Especially with all the storms in the Gulf. Oil spills are almost certain if hurricane season continues the way it was last year.
I think the money being put forward to do this drilling should be used to find alternate forms of energy and power and other forms of ‘juice’ for transportation.
Eeesh. Everyone needs to see “An Inconvenient Truth” and then realize that Oil is going to be the death of the US.
no way. instead, the US should mandate a much higher mpg for all new vehicles, put the money they would spend on offshore drilling into renewable energy research, and fund more hybrid vehicles.
what we pay for gas here in the States is laughable compared to what Europeans have to pay. we are just a nation of whiners, only concerned for the immediate gratification of our own selfish needs.
the risk to the environment is not worth a potential reduction in gas prices from oil companies that have made record profits so far this year….
Frankly, I think the last thing we need to be doing is drilling for more oil in an attempt to lower gas prices. It’s not going to help in any real way. We do need to break our dependence on foreign oil, but we also need to break our dependence on oil in general. What happens when we run out of oil? It would do us a bit of good to not have to buy it from Muslim Arabs who hate us when there is no more left.
Alternatives to burning fossile fuels is the only real option. The oil companies have enough money, and if they would invest in the alternative fuels now, when they become the primary means of running our vehicles, they would be raking in the profits from that on top of the oil profits. It is a myth that shifting to alternative fuels is going to hurt the economy.
No, we shouldn’t be drilling for more oil. We should be investing money in finding ways to not be dependent on oil at all.
We should invest money in alternative fuels.
and we really need to be more suspicious when the president of our country and the vice-president of our country are oil men themselves. it could not possibly be a factor that their oil buddies might be pressuring them for this legislation, could it?
Well, from what I have heard, Cuba has sold rights to China to drill there, so we might as well do it. Although, I think we are better off working on developing alternative fuel sources, like ethanol.
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Congress (well, Democrats) just needs to make up it’s mind. If they’re so concerned about the environment, then stop harping about high gas prices. If they really want to find alternative sources of oil and/or fuel, then allow some piece of legislation through! They won’t agree to drill off the coasts or in ANWR (by the way, the space they would drill in ANWR is a space the size of Dulles airport in a space the size of South Carolina!), they don’t want windmills blocking the Kennedys view off Martha’s Vineyard, and they haven’t yet supported any kind of alternative fuel research or funding. The bottom line is they just want to blame the Bush administration for something, anything, everything and they don’t really want to solve any of the problems.
yes
If they do decide to drill, then they need to also be putting money and efforts into finding ways for us to wean ourselves of our oil dependency. Finding more sources for oil drilling is a band-aid solution, something that will help lower prices in the short term but will do nothing about the shock we will experience when we start seriously running low on oil production and prices skyrocket once more.
I just returned from Cancun and I was able to go snorkeling and swimming with the dolphins while I was there. The sea life there is really amazing and because of some oil products in sunblock, the water is getting oily and the animals are dying.
I’d have to say no to drilling for oil. It would be a shame to destroy all of the wonderful reefs.
Yes. I think the environmental risks are worth being able to drive home from school for less than 75 bucks! Yeah, I don’t get the tourism thing, though.
I kinda doubt gas prices would go down… Gas is between $3.14-$3.24 here so it would be nice to see a drop, but I won’t hold my breath.
YES YES YES And there is oil in Alaska too that we should be drilling!
If they do, not much at all.
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I don’t think we should. The government be investing in alternative fuels, not feeding America’s oil addiction. I hope it doesn’t go through.
Tough. We need the gas prices to go down badly, but it could hurt the enviorment
sure. however what i don’t think the public realizes is how long it takes for oil to turn into gas that we put into our cars. we’ll forget all about it by the time that oil is used in our vehicles. we’ll be sitting here, another year from now saying “hey, i thought they were supossed to drill in the gulf of mexico so our gas prices would lower?”
No. Come up with eco-friendly solutions; solutions that don’t involve the need for oil, or other nonrenewable energies. I believe our country has the intellect and resourses to do that.
What should happen. Clearly an increase in supply should lessen the demand causing the price to decrease. That is how the system works. Furthermore, an American supply lessens the demand for foreign oil. This would cause Opec’s prices to decrease and their funds that trickle to terrorists to be decreased as well. Although China’s increasing petroleum demands would compensate for all the oil that we do not buy.
Possible Outcome #1. Americans are getting comfortable with paying well over $2 a gallon for gas, and now edging over $3 a gallon in some areas like where I live. So the oil companies may decide to get the oil here at a cheaper rate than from the middle east and still keep the prices steady lining their coffers at an even higher rate.
Possible Outcome #2. Tree huggers may do what they always do and keep Americans from any possibility of ever lowering gas prices by preventing drilling in the Gulf as they did in Alaska. At least there are some assets in the Gulf unlike Alaska which is a huge empty land with a few species of animals that most Americans will never see and that will probably be almost entirely unaffected by drilling up there. I would prefer drilling in Alaska over the Gulf, but something needs to be done. NEWS FLASH: progress of society takes natural land and converts into developed land, deal with it or move to a jungle and live in a treehouse made out of recycled cardboard and eat fruits and nuts.
NO. But we should start working harder at developing other energy sources so that we can ween ourselves away from our dependence on oil all together.
if they can do it safely then yes. then in them meantime they need to start introducing alternate fuel choices more and more
absolutely… we should have been doing it all along… we should not depend on any foreign oil for our survival… we have plenty, why should we pay for theirs?
No–it’s time to move to a different source of energy.
I agree with Hidden_Sandwich.
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It’s not just oil. There are also 5.8 trillion cubic feet of natural gas to be obtained. Enviro-nuts oppose progress every single chance they get, and just about everything they say is flat-out wrong.
Hmmm…although gas prices maybe soaring, endangering our precious and fragile enviroment is not worth it. Instead of drilling more oil, we should switch to Hybrid and battery powered cars. Good for the enviroment and saves you money. Sounds good to me!
No. We need an ecologically-sound safe solution. I think we should make Bush increase spending on research for alternative fuels as he promised in the State of the Union address this past January.
if we drilled in the gulf, that would make the problem worse in hurricane season, the rigs have to shut down if they’re told to and that would cause an even bigger shortage when a storm comes through
> It would depend on eviornmental factors and the actual reduction in price. Drilling isn’t necessary. There is an oil reserve of salt domes there now. What the proposal is is to open these and start drawing on it. Back to my first statement.
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A Russian oil pipe is leaking and some oil has leaked onto the Lebanon shores and these people are concerned? I say all the more measures taken to break us of the foreign oil habit go ahead, just take every precaution and safe-guard possible. That’ll at least lessen that risk. I know that no system is fool-proof, but until ifs become is’s I don’t see any reason to worry.
Keep the gas prices high until we come up with something in the alternative energy way. Only tap the Gulf of Mexico or Alaska when it becomes an emergency. Just let the gas prices slowly rise until someone gets off their ass.
gas is too cheap. gas is too cheap. gas is too cheap.
I say pretend we don’t have much there until most of the oil in the rest of the world is at the stage where it is difficult to get out. Then, cause downward price pressure on the market by beginning to use our own supplies.
Like another limited oil reserve will help lower prices at all. The government has practically no short-term control on current gas prices. If you want lower gas prices, it won’t happen.
Yes we should, and we should do what ever it takes to use energy wisly and develop things we already know about
Sure, why not potentially destroy the world and lives of hundreds of people so that some rich americans can save money on gas?
Yes, in the Gulf of Mexico and in Alaska!! (And I have relatives in AK, so I am not some uninformed person!)
i think alternative fuel is the way to go considering the extensive damage offshore drilling could do. In any situation like that the government takes proper precautions but times than not some kind of accident happens.
No.
We have got to focus on better sources of energy than drilling the fuck out of every place we go.
Those ‘environuts’ are trying to ensure that the human race can actually enjoy what undeveloped land we have left.
No, we should not drill in the Gulf of Mexico. Even if that reason isn’t for the obvious fact that it destroys marine ecosystems, the fact that huge oil leaks happen should clue people in that it’s a BAD idea.
Do you want to go to the beach only to see that the ocean water is not the clear, beuatiful blue that you’ve come to expect and love but it’s murky, black, and disgusting? That fish are lined up on the banks, dead due to lack of oxygen?
Again, we should not drill in the Gulf of Mexico. Maybe if gas prices spike high enough, people will actually start to think of more economical methods of transportation. Like hybrid cars. Or bicycles. Something that doesn’t involve making our planet even more disgusting that it’s becoming.
Hm. Sure.
lethal injection.
painless, they say.