September 30, 2006

  • Gay Marriage Part 2

    The issue of gay marriage has come up in the last few elections.  Every time that people have been allowed to vote on the issue, they have voted to make marriage between a man and a woman.  In fact, 20 times the issue has been put before people across this country and every time the people have voted to define marriage as between a man and a woman.    

    This election eight states will be voting on defining a marriage as between a man and a woman.  The votes this time around may be closer.  It is expected that fewer conservatives will vote in this election.  

    One of the states in which the vote could be close is in Wisconsin.  In Wisconsin, marriage would be defined as between a man and a woman.  But in addition, the vote will be to ban other civil unions that are “substantially similar” to marriage.      

    If you were able to vote on a constitutional amendment in your state defining marriage as between a man and a woman, would you vote in favor of the constitutional amendment? 

        

Comments (244)

  • it’s crystal clear in His Word……..man and woman………so I will vote that way :)

  • While I’m opposed to the concept of legislating morality, I would.

  • NO I dont think i would..  I think love is love, and just because I love my wife, doesnt mean two men or two women cant love the same

  • Ahh so close to first, im getting better!!

  • It’s tricky… I’ve always defined marriage as between a man and a woman. However, if any of my kids ever told me they were gay and wanted to get married, I wouldn’t want them to be hurt by being denied to do so. So… I don’t know….

  • Homosexual is evil. But that shouldnt stop us from loving them and showing compassion from them, cause there is no such thing as ‘lesser sin’.

  • um…… yes, i think that i would….

  • Nowhere in the Bible does it say that a marriage is between ONE man and ONE woman. If you want to go by the bible so much, make polygamy, murder, and so forth, legal. You can’t pick and choose.

  • No i don’t think i would vote in favor of it.

  • i’m very open-minded to Gay. Gay-marriage. and such.

    but i wouldn’t vote due to anything.
    because it doesn’t bother me either way.

    <33

  • No.
    America is supposed to be a free country.
    Free to express any lifestyle, any religion, free to be any race or sexuality. 

    We’ve accepted black people. Why can’t we accept gay people?

    -Jacob

  • say no!
    gayness rox sox

  • Why don’t we just discard marriage since it’s causing so much fucking controversy.

    That’s all I have to say about this. I’m for gay marriage and rights, so I’m saving my arguments for my school essay.

  • See, the marriage being between a man and woman thing? It doesn’t necessarily apply to all religions. Especially, you know, paganism and atheism. So, voting that in would, like, violate the first amendment, and stuff.

  • I’m a Christian, and while I don’t support the gay lifestyle, I know a few people who are gay, and I support THEM.  If they found someone that they wanted to spend the rest of their lives with, I would support marriage…yes it says in the Bible that homosexuality is a sin, but so is lying, adultery, etc.  How is homosexuality any more horrible than those sins?  Isn’t it true that God hates the SIN, but loves the sinner?  If they truly love each other…why shouldn’t they be married in front of their peers and in front of God?  He already knows what they’ve done, and they will be judged like the rest of us when we die…I would most definitely not vote in favor of that constitutional amendment.  They are human beings, and some of them will probably honor their marriages more than the rest of us…who commit adultery and hurt our spouses and families…why shouldn’t they be given a chance???

  • No. Love is love, even if it is between members of the same sex.

  • What another man chooses to do with his asshole is his own business. If a woman chooses to be a carpet cleaner then more power to her. I could care less. As far as voting for or against a definition…that is ridiculous. It doesn’t matter how they choose to define it, people will still do what they do.

  • Nope.

  • without hesitation.

  • Mississippi already voted, i voted with them,
    only one man, and one woman can get married to each-other.
    that’s the way it should be. period.

  • marriage is between a man and a woman.  period. 

  • no. seperation between church and state people, seperation.

  • I would, and I have voted to preserve marriage as being between one man and one woman. Not only does homosexuality go agaisnt the teachings of my faith, but also “tradditional marriage” is better for children.

  • NO!!!!!!!!!!! It’s their life why do we have a say in if they should be allowed to marry or not? If they want to let them. And where in the Bible does it EVER say word-for-word that there can’t be marriage between people of the same sex?

  • How do you know that traditional marriage is better for children?  There are plenty of gay couples who have kids…and those children are healthy, happy, and straight…just because you have a gay parent or parents does not mean that you will turn out to be gay too, or have a bad life.

  • man and woman

  • I believe one day before I die, I will be able to legally marry wife.  I hope it’s sooner than later.

  • I meant marry MY wife. Oy.

  • If you all are so keen to follow every word the bible says, why do you still approach a woman while she is in her menstrual cycle? And why is cheating not illegal but homosexual marriage is? You have no right to tell them they’re any more wrong than those who commit the other “smaller” crimes in the people. You people make me sick.

  • I meant in the *bible, not people.

  • Love is love.

    You don’t see people condemning a man because of him falling in love with a certain woman, but if a man falls in love with another man, then let’s raise hell.

    It’s an emotion, and we shouldn’t be trying to limit people and force them not to express their love like any other man and woman would, through marrige.

  • It’s a man-woman thing. That’s it. I’ll vote to support what Scripture says.

  • Probably.  I have nothing against domestic partnerships or civil unions though.

  • I would not vote to make marriage between a man and a woman only. I support the idea that gay people should be just as welcome to marry as anyone else. There are plenty of people more capable than me to present arguments for the rights of every individual, not just the ones you like, so I wont repeate them here.

    Still, I wish people could see past what is written in the bible for just five minutes, and be able to see the world and make decisions for themselves, rather than based on the opinion of monks from centuries ago.

    By the way, I am surprised that so many people also spoke for gay marriage here. Perhaps the tables are not as unbalanced as you suggest above?

  • I’d never think of doing that, I myself am gay, I intend to find and marry a partner one day.  I notice how many “good Christians” on your site seem to like telling other people how to live and what choices are allowed. 

    If you are not the person I love and intend to marry, then I don’t see this as your decision. 

    My life is not a “style” its just a life, and its mine!

  • I think civil unions are sweet… but I don’t think there should be an amendment or any legistation either restriciting or making it legal

    If it isn’t for the federal government to decide, then who can?

  • No. I don’t like controlling other people’s lives.

  • Perhaps one if I knew that the national consciousness was at a point where it would vote YES on allowing some kind of union betweem any kind of couples.

    Look at it from a national stability and economic position.

    America was once a much more prosperous country in terms of growth and stability. Now we are deep in debt and not anywhere near the manufacturing giant we were say in 1950.

    Economists theorize (at the 101 college level, where I am) that the way to make a country prosper is to make it’s people prosper.

    Aside from religious meaning behind marriage, there are simple immediate benifits of marraiges, or unions. Tax breaks, property rights, custody of children, etc etc. A union makes two AMERICANS more prosperous, or could equip them with what they need to prosper and thus stimulate local, then national economies.

    The people in Colorado should think about the money a couple could save, then SPEND in Colorado if they had all the benefits of a recognized union, man man or woman woman, or woman man.

    Instead they worry about putting a kind of morality defined in the bible and pass laws that actually make it a little or a lot harder for a LOT more than 3% of Americans.

    How are they helping the country, and closer to home, their own children with this kind of ammendment?

  • Yes, I’d vote on anything that supports men and women being united as one.

  • Yes. I don’t want the state teaching kids imorality. That’s my job.

    That was suppose to be funny. So don’t hammer me.

  • Instead of a one word answer, how about some explanations. Prove that you are thinking for yourselves.

  • Actually Ohio has, and I did vote in that election. While my fellow states men and women banned it I continue to hold that the U.S. Government has no business telling people whom to marry.

  • I support gay marriage, but each church must be free to make up its own mind on whether or not to recognize it.

  • “Nowhere in the Bible does it say that a marriage is between ONE man and ONE woman.”
     
    What about Matthew 19:5?

  • “So, voting that in would, like, violate the first amendment, and stuff.”
    It doesn’t violate the 1st amendment.  But I won’t argue with “and stuff”.  You got us there…
     

  • although i am a christian, and i am straight, i do support gay marriage because being married isn’t only about a love bond with another person, but a way to make payments and solve other money issues that are easier to solve when two people living together are joined under one name sharing the same account, and I believe all people deserve that right.

  • Absolutely not. Marriage is a human right, not a heterosexual privilege. Love is love.

  • “And why is cheating not illegal but homosexual marriage is?”
    GREAT QUESTION!  Why IS cheating not illegal?  Actually, in some states adultery still IS illegal, though it isn’t prosecuted.  Adultery is illegal in the military and is occasionally prosecuted.

  • “If it isn’t for the federal government to decide, then who can?”
    The States!  That’s how the Constitution works. 

  • I say… marriage = 1 man + 1 woman. Its gross to see two men holding hands and kissing in public.. or chicks. Its disgusting and they are (in my opinion) wrong on their decisions. God does NOT make you born gay or lesbian. NO NO NO! Gah.

  • yeah.. i’m religious, but beyond that to openly accept it will create a whole nother type of racism, but this time it would be public

  • i think that if they are not allowed marriage they should be allowed to have the pluses of marriage

    such as being considered family to visit them in a hospital.

    cuz in the end. they will be together no matter what. why stop them?

  • No I wouldn’t, but I’m too tired to go into my explanatory spiel.

  • No. 

    First of all, this sort of amendment has no place in the constitution.

    Second, none of us have any business trying to tell people who they can or cannot marry.  Separation of church and state also dictates that religious doctrine cannot be the reason behind our laws, and the only reasons I’ve ever been given for denying gays the right to marry are religious ones.

  • “God does NOT make you born gay or lesbian. NO NO NO! Gah.”

    SweetSummerChaoes, do you even know any gay people?  Do you have any basis (other than what your religious leaders may have told you) for believing that homosexuality isn’t inborn?  B/c there seems to be an awful lot of evidence towards the contrary.

  • the government shouldnt actually be involved with marriage to begin with
    seperation of church and state
    hello
    marriage should have nothing at all to do with legal matters
    it should be a personal decision
    i dont care if gay ppl get married cuz well… im not gay OR religious
    but i think that it should just all be changed to legally binding bullshit… no matter WHAT the fuck you are
    because the government has no right to say gay ppl cant have the rights that straight married ppl do… and the government has no right to say that the church has to marry gay ppl either…
    so there you have it
    real logic

  • No.

    I believe that in this age, love is love, and even if it isn’t legally recognized, it WILL make itself known, and it will be a present, ever-looming cloud over those who oppose it. Knowing that, and personally supporting gay marriage, I would vote in favor of making gay marriage (and all similar unions) legal.

    I believe that making gay marriage illegal, as well as banning all same-sex unions, is too much like racism, but that’s another subject entirely.

  • No. A vote for that legislation would be a vote against social justice.

  • “I say… marriage = 1 man + 1 woman. Its gross to see two men holding hands and kissing in public.. or chicks. Its disgusting and they are (in my opinion) wrong on their decisions. God does NOT make you born gay or lesbian. NO NO NO! Gah.”
     
    It’s disgusting when anyone kisses in public and I have seen some pretty darn disgusting stuff done in public by heterosexuals too. Get a room!
     
    If you wanna stop gays from making public displays of affection then we gays will lobby the government to restore and enforce the laws against any form of public affection like…how GROSS to see a man pawing and slobbering all over a woman and making her into a sex object in public!
     
     

  • I think it’s funny that some people are saying they’re against legislating morality when all of our laws are based on morals (i.e., thou shalt not kill). Not just any morals, but specifically Judeo-Christian ethical principles.

  • Absolutely.
    And, to refute what someone said:
    “Nowhere in the Bible does it say that a marriage is between ONE man and ONE woman. If you want to go by the bible so much, make polygamy, murder, and so forth, legal. You can’t pick and choose.”
    Posted 9/30/2006 at 10:56 PM by Concede_and_Believe
    Actually, yes, God’s word is very clear that marriage, or any relationship at all should be between ONE man and ONE woman.  Shall I give you a few examples?
    Example #1 Romans 1: 24-27 “…24 Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
    26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.”
    Example # 2, Genesis 2:23-24
    “And Adam said:
    ‘This is now bone of my bones
    And flesh of my flesh;
    She shall be called Woman,
    Because she was taken out of Man.’
    24 Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.”

  • If they want to have a ceremony and a legally binding arrangement, so be it. Call it a civil union or a marriage, it’s all semantics anyhow. If two men, two women, or a man and a woman want to spend the rest of their lives together, it’s all good. I just don’t see the point of legislating something like this when ALL of our branches of government at ALL levels need “cleaning out”… and they are using this and any other “hot” issue the can to keep the sheep from thinking about what they are doing – and before anyone starts ranting about “it’s the *insert despised political party here*” It’s all of them reguardless of political party membership.

  • no i believe marriage is between 2 people who love each other. why let something as little as marriage get in the way of other peoples happiness. people are just afriad of change and what they don’t know.

  • Ok, you’ve got center stage on this one to actually give a follow up answer :)   Do you know it?  The biblical one?  I think you do, but I’m not so sure you want to go there………….please do, regardless……..use the amazing chance He has given you here, to actually make people think?  What do you think?  Is is worth it?  I hope your answer is yes :)   I know His is :)

  • I wouldn’t vote.
    [Well, if I could vote in the first place, I wouldn't vote. x)]

  • ryc-yes, that is quite amazing……….thanks :)

  • Yes… even as much as I want EVERYONE to suffer the way married people do… I’d still vote for it.

  • yes i would. not because i hate gays but because it is a constitutional amendment and those shouldn’t be changed. also because it is a sin, now i’m not saying i am perfect but i don’t think we should make it legal.

  • it wouldnt matter… as long as we are unable to reproduce without an guy and a gal, theres no point in being opposed to gay marriage…

  • I’m not even going to touch upon the religious aspect of this because, while the Christian faith is increasingly popular, it is NOT the only faith.  There are faiths that are fully accepting of same sex relationships and there is absolutely no way to say, and be correct, what is right or wrong when it comes to religion.  I’m taking a step back and speaking as a human being, nothing else, to say that I would not support that definition especially not in this day and age therefore I would never vote in favor of it.  You can take away the marriage but you can’t away the love.  Making same sex marriage impossible is not going to decrease the population of gays, lesbians and bisexuals.  So why not just make it possible?  How would any of us feel if the government, or anyone, stepped into our relationships to say that we can’t do this and can’t do that because this person is that and you’re this?  How would a Catholic feel if were suddenly illegal to marry someone Jewish?  How would a Irish woman feel if it were suddenly unacceptable to marry a German?  Those questions sound real silly, don’t they?  Imagine what gays, lesbians and bisexuals feel when they ask themselves why they can’t share their lives, in marriage, with the person they want to be with for eternity.  If your rights as a human being were suddenly stepped upon you’d want someone there to support you.  One day the government WILL step on your rights.  Why?  We’re already letting them step all over the rights of a lot of people.  Then you’ll be sitting there, scratching your head and wondering why no one is behind you to support YOU?  You want to get religious?  You reap what you sow.  If you can’t treat a person like a human being with the same rights as you — gays, lesbians and bisexuals — then your “love thy neighbor” means nothing.  Or is it “love thy neighbor unless they happen to be gay and want to marry?”  I’m getting away from the glasses houses, that’s for sure.

  • of course….the soul pupose of a constitution is to keep people in check and tell them what to do..

    who needs this thing called “freedom”???

    come on the govenment is supposed to telll us what to do…didnt you know that????

    (notice the heavy sacrasm)

  • No. If you’re saying the Bible was against gay marriage, you could also be saying the Bible is against love. That’s all it is, love. Who’s to say love can only be true between a man and a woman? Love is love, no matter who it involves.

  • hey you don’t know me but yea are you real going to kill yourself because if you do what the fuck is wrong with you and my name is rachel l just had to say something about that is you are joking please don’t joke like that because l know so one that was not joking and she put that on her xanga to ok thing u peace out boy

  • It depends. If they wanted to get married by the state, you don’t mention God. I support civil unions and gay adoption. But they also have to understand that you can’t make your church marry you. No matter what, it’s against the churches beliefs, and while they can still support you, your life, and your family, you can’t make them do something they don’t believe in. So I would vote no against the anti gay marriage thing, but under specific details.

  • “Actually, yes, God’s word is very clear that marriage, or any relationship at all should be between ONE man and ONE woman.  Shall I give you a few examples? “

    Soooo. God is against love? Pfft, not MY god. (Not sure who that is at the moment, though… I want to make up my own god. OOH OOH!)

    “I say… marriage = 1 man + 1 woman. Its gross to see two men holding hands and kissing in public.. or chicks. Its disgusting and they are (in my opinion) wrong on their decisions. God does NOT make you born gay or lesbian. NO NO NO! Gah.”

    OMGZ0RS I KNOWZ RIGHT. SO FUCKINN GROSS.

    Sorry, I had to do it.

    Hey, whoever said this, when I see you holding hands and kissing your boyfriend, I think you’re gross. Doesn’t mean I don’t want you two to get married, I’m just a stupid prude who gets creeped out by that kind of stuff.

    Hmph.

    “Not only does homosexuality go agaisnt the teachings of my faith, but also “tradditional marriage” is better for children.”

    Does it go against the teachings of ALL faiths? What is your faith to control people’s lives?

    And we all know that terrorists and awful presidents and all the bad people in the world grew up in an “untraditional marriage”.

    (Sarcasm.)

    “it’s crystal clear in His Word……..man and woman………so I will vote that way :)

    What about Her Word? :]

    Yeah, I don’t know, it’s 3:30 am, sorry.

    That’s it for now.

    Love.

  • No. I really don’t understand how leting gay people marry is hurting anyone, but I can definitely see how not allowing them to marry has negative impacts and if you ask me is unjust. I live in Colorado and plan to vote for the legislation that will ensure some partners rights.

  • Of course not, homophobia and heterosexism are disgusting.

  • Yes… it is a sin and unnatural for the same sex to be together…  The bible says marrage should be between a man and a woman… not any other way…  no one is born gay, it is not who someone is, it’s just them thinking that way that overrides their true feelings about genders maybe because they are more femanine/masculine or don’t feel secure around the opposite sex

    Leave

  • love is love. i don’t care what the bible says.

  • Tennessee is one of those states voting. I will vote yes to define marriage constitutionally as the union between one man and one woman. It is not an anti-gay vote! It is a vote to preserve this institution and the core family itself. I disagree with your contention that not many conservatives will turn out. Our ranks are swelling and a lot of folks are going to be surprised in November when we still have a Republican house and senate. Of course, the Southern Baptist Convention and the Church of Christ are beating the drums very hard. It will be a Republican day in Tennessee!

  • This debate makes me sick.

    Cheap way to get hits, Dan!

    *leave*

  • “It is a vote to preserve this institution and the core family itself.”

    wait….those still exist!?!?!?!?

    someone better tell Las Vegas that!!!

  • Since when do we get the choice to dictate the freedom’s of the minority?!!

    ’nuff said….

  • “I will vote yes to define marriage constitutionally as the union between one man and one woman. It is not an anti-gay vote! It is a vote to preserve this institution and the core family itself.”

    Protect the so-called sanctity of marriage? Better make divorce illegal then. Somewhere over 50% now isn’t it? Oh, and let’s also make those 48 hour britney spears-style marriages illegal too. While we’re at it, let’s just go ahead and only let Christians marry. Sorry all you other religious folk and atheists. We’re just gonna go by what the Bible says from now on and interpret when it says Man and Woman, to be Jesus Christ-followin’ men and women.

    Bunch of ignorant fools.

  • I would vote for politicians to never be allowed to bring this issue up just so that they can whore for votes. This was brought up in three election cycles and do you see Federal action?…

  • I would have to say that I’m not sure how I would vote, since I’ve never seen what a balot looks like for this stuff. But I do know that I am against gay marraige because it’s between a man and a woman. However, I believe that civil unions for gays should be allowed. As long as a civil union is between two people they should be allowed. Not more than two people, not a person and an animal. Just two people.

  • And in response to a comment left by ladicatherine, marriage is not something for the government to decide. It’s for the individual churches to decide. If you have the Catholic church, who is completely against gay marraige, and they say, “No, you can’t get married here.” But then you have ______ church, and they say, “Yes, step this way, you’ll be married soon.” That’s their decision. It should be left to the judgement of the individual churches. The government should not have the right nor the ability to make it legal or illegal. They should ONLY be deciding on the legality of civil unions.

  •    I would vote for it. The Bible defined marraige between man and woman. Not man and man, nor woman and woman.

  • Yes, I probably would vote for the amendment. Since it has not come up in PA and is not top of my agenda, I have not fully considered it though.

  •    It isn’t “love”, it’s a peverted form of lust.

  • Yes………..ya know the clearest way to understand the electrical aspect, you can’t plug two male electrical parts into one another, you just don’t get any power.

  • Nope… regardless of my own, or anyone else’s, religious convictions, this is a country where there is a freedom of religion, and so far I have heard no reasons other than religous for why gay people should not be allowed to get married.

  • Between men and women, yes.

  • ryc: haha that’s funny

  • God Bless America.  A land where the idiot majority get to enforce their values onto the minority.  Land of the “free.”  And home of the brave “I support the troops but would never let my kids join the military.”

  • I have voted for the ammendment.  I have friends that are gay, I love them, don’t love their liftstyle.   I don’t know if it was nature or nurture but it is clear to me that no, it is not normal.  From a few perspectives.  1 – the Bible – the scripture is there, I have already seen the verses quoted here so I won’t post them again.  2 – If you have three islands and you put all men on one, all women on the other and make one coed – in 150 years, which one will still have life?  If gay people are born gay, that doesn’t necessarily make it right for them to act on it.  You may also be born with addictive tendencies – that doesn’t make it right to become a heroine addict or an alcholic.   3.  Someone responded by saying that lying and adultery, etc. is also a sin – inferring that if gay marriage should be against the law then so should these things.  Using that same argument – does this mean that murder and rape should not be against the law?

    For those that are bashing people who comment from a Christian aspect and saying that you should think for yourselves, Christians do think for themselves.  They study and believe in the Word of God – The Bible.  This is their choice – just as you have made yours.  They have every right to their choice, just as you have yours.  You may consider them ignorant, they may consider you the same.  One person said something to the effect of, you should adapt to the ways of the world.  This is exactly what the Bible says not to do.  I would much rather follow the Word of God than the opinions of other people that error as much as I do. 

  • I’m very fortunate enough to live in a country that allows same sex marriage and I for one am proud enough not to misuse the word of God to reflect my own hate!

  • Y does everyone have to talk about the bible when it comes to this!!???? man that bugs me anyway I think it’s wrong and marriage should be between a man and a women so i would vote yes

  • Um, Yeah! duh! i dont want to be in a public place & then there are gay ppl. who wants to see that? & when i have kids, i dont want them to see that! eww! the Bible says marriage is between a man & a woman, so it should stay that way!

  • god wanted a man and a woman and it is natural that way…

    let’s keep it that way.

  • Only if there was a corrosponding Civil Union question on the ballot legalizing Civil Unions for gays and lesbians. People should be able to choose who they want to share their life with financially.

  • i’m not sure it’s right for us to judge others by our own set of christian beliefs if they are not christian. plus, unlike many many other sins, being homosexual doesn’t harm others. it’s love

  • “ya know the clearest way to understand the electrical aspect, you can’t plug two male electrical parts into one another, you just don’t get any power.”

    Last time I checked I didn’t have any electrical attachments extended from my body.

    But in response to this analogy I will say this, the power of genuine and legitimate love between two people wether it is a man/man , woman/man, woman/woman….is far more powerful then anyone can ever imagine.

  • HOT GAY LOVE IS OK IN MY BOOK!

  • >> Yes………..ya know the clearest way to understand the electrical aspect, you can’t plug two male electrical parts into one another, you just don’t get any power. <<

    Define “power”. The ability to procreate? In that case the elderly and infertile couples couldn’t be married. So what do you mean by “power”?

    It just so happens that stimulating the prostate gland is enough to give the recipient an orgasm, but the only way to stimulate it is to penetrate the rectal canal…. how’s that for power?

  • Okay. Here’s my rant, this is my thing.

    LOVE. IS. LOVE.
    I accept the fact that the Bible doesn’t permit homosexuality. EITHER WAY YOU VOTE, SOMEONE IS UNHAPPY.
    So vote the way that agrees with America, and the Constitution.
    Voting against gay marriage would be violating the principle of separation of church and state, and favoring Christianity. By voting against it, you would not only be making the gay/lesbian/bisexual/transgender population quite unhappy, but you would also be discriminating against other VALID religions such as Wiccan, Agnosticism, and other new-age beliefs. Doing so would contradict the very principle of the United States. If you don’t like it, YOU DON’T HAVE TO PRACTICE IT. It’s that simple.

    Remember when blacks had no rights? And women? IT’S THE SAME THING. We seem to move from one group to another discriminating them, because America just cannot tolerate everyone. IT DISGUSTS ME.
    I am bisexual. I can speak from firsthand experience, love transcends gender. I think that love is a beautiful thing, no matter whom is it between.

    I accept the fact that you don’t agree with it. That, I won’t attempt to change. However, I’ll keep going on this because to vote against gay marriage would be like voting against blacks, or voting against women.

    It’s a sin to you, but it’s beautiful to me.

  • ‘Seperation of church and state’ what ever happened to that. The only reason this is an issue is becuase a bunch of christian politics started running off of their beliefs instead of what’s good for the country, what happened to the land of the free? Is it “You’re free to do what we tell you” or “You’re free to do what the Bible says” but why not “You’re free.”

    I would vote against. I support abortion, stem cell research, gay marriage, among other things.

  • I’m kinda pissed at the fact that we have to define what marriage is and it has to be LEGAL

    Sure, I understand that minors cannot marry but damn, so much for separation of church and state.

    Voting for a def. of marriage is purely rediculous.

  • Voting the decision that supports “What God wants” is fearful and shakey.
    Leave god out of it; church and state are separated.
    Not everybody in the country is a Christian and therefore not everybody should be denied certain rights JUST to keep the Christians happy. That is unconstitutional and communist to a degree.
    Those of you who are saying to keep it between one man and one woman:
    Do you HONESTLY care about those gays who have gotten married? Have they hurt you? Have they shamed you? Have they embarrassed you? If you saw half a gay couple in public, would you be able to tell if they were married or having sex with somebody of their gender? NO. Are you subconsciously aware of every single gay marriage/ union that takes place? NO.
    Shut up and leave it alone.

    I can personally think of a few STRAIGHT couples that shouldn’t be married and I’d never try to pass a bill that would deny them that right. And quit saying it’s
    un-natural’ and ‘disgusting’. Imagining obese people having sex grosses me out more than two men or two women. You idiots will just jump on whatever uptight, hateful, discrimatory bandwagon happens to be driving by waving the ‘christian flag’.
    People that are outright against the freedom of our people here in America make me sick.

  • no, lolve is love doesnt matter between who. Besides its not our busniss who is marryed to who i mean come on who really cares ahh right..Everyone else

    xX-Nicole-Xx

  • If its all about the love, free Warren Jeffs. Or isn’t that type of marriage popular with the progressive thinkers out there

  • No.

    Consider this: the government gives us a marriage license much like they give us a hunting license. We apply; they give. There is nothing sanctimonious about said license.

    The church recognizes our marriage as holy in the sight of God. The government does not, in fact is not allowed, to recognize my marriage as holy; it just recognizes my marriage as existing. This gives me spousal privelege. It allows me make major medical decisions for my spouse should he be unable to do so, and it allows me be taken care of by him (via life insurance) should worse come to worse and he pass away.

    The extent to which goverment should interfere in marriage is right there–legality, not spirituality.

    The marriage amendment prevents homosexuals from having the rights that heterosexual spouses  have. They are not allowed to speak for their partner in medical decisions or inherit life insurance to be taken care of. I have a problem with this. It is our partner, our spouse, who knows us best, and who should be the one speaking for us when we are unable to speak for ourselves. It is our partner whom we want to know is taken care of when we pass away.

    I don’t feel like we can legislate someone’s bedroom. I know the argument people will make against me, here, is that we already do. (We are not allowed to marry cousins, etc.) Of course, and I agree with this. When relatives marry and children are produced, there can be mental and physical defects due to the closeness of the genes in the genepool. We have proven the harm this type of marriage causes.

    Have we done the same with homosexual marriages? Have we proven the harm they cause?

    I think not, and there is a reason.

  • Marriage IS between a man & a woman.  I used to think differently.  I used to walk the way of the world WHILE claiming to be a Christian.  I still fall short, also.  So anyone who is gay or for gay marriage should know WHY I feel the way I do.  When you seek the truth, and ask God to reveal the truth to you, even if it doesn’t fit in your neat little package with everything that YOU want, but what He wants…if you ask this genuinely, then He will provide you with the answer.  Once you know the truth, you WILL be changed by it.  You will understand why, and you will do everything that you can to pursue it.  The truth is the light.  So, understand that I am not a heartless person, and I even have had gay friends & roommates in the past.  I do not judge them, because it is not my place.  But I cannot deny the truth of all things revealed to me.  It is what gives me my liberty, and makes my life worth anything.

  • No.

    In fact, I’d like to think I’d go so far as to petition against it.

    I have my right to pursue my own happiness. If I fall in love with someone and live happily with her for forty years–wanting to get married–, then it seems to me that my right to pursue my happiness is denied. And when every gay person in America is denied that right, who’s being wronged?

    Not to mention the fact that straight people have made the divorce rate as high as it is. And that straight people are taking total advantage of marriage, which has no sanctity anymore. People are getting married on TELEVISION now, people–where’s the harm in letting gay people get married in a church? People get married in drive-through churches in Vegas for a few hours at a time–what’s wrong with letting a gay couple who’ve been in love for DECADES get married?

    I totally, TOTALLY appreciate people like sakura7546, who take the Christian standpoint I always thought was supposed to be taken: God loves everyone, does He not?
    And don’t you Christians think that, if God DIDN’T love us, he wouldn’t have put us here?

  • >> If its all about the love, free Warren Jeffs. Or isn’t that type of marriage popular with the progressive thinkers out there <<

    I know you weren’t addressing me, but I’m technically “progressive”, at least in some areas. I’ve notived that you tend to insult people a lot without engaging their points. Why is that?

  • I’m in favor of it.

    I don’t understand how a same sex couple getting married will harm my marriage of 25 years. If anything, allowing them to create a stable family unit allows more social support and increases the stability of society as a whole.

  • Not allowing it will not lessen homosexual behavior, it will only hurt society.

    I think it is the compassionate thing to do.

  • noticed* … pardon my sleep deprivation

  • hell no

  • Yes of course.  What is next…you love your dog so much you want to marry the dog?   I did read an article quite a while back a woman married a dolphin.  Yep, they went through a “ceremony” uniting the two.  This stuff makes a mockery of marriage. 

    The reason they keep voting and voting and voting on this same sex marriage stunt is because that is what liberals do.  They will never give up on whatever their “cause” is and they are persistent.  They know that “normal” people have lives to live whereas they live for their “causes”.  So they keep bringing it up knowing that eventually by the process of continually harping on same sex marriage they will finally “sneak” it in there.   They know eventually those against it will finally give up the battle because they have other things in their lives to concern themselves with whereas liberals (same sex advocates) have all the time in the world to get what they want.  These advocates sole job is to destroy traditional values and to destroy the foundations of decency.  Once that is accomplished anything goes and a moral society will start crumbling from within.    

  • Marriage is a dance three: God, a man, and a woman. Not a fourth — government.

    Marriage is not a state concern, but instead a divine one. I would never vote to let a government define a God-mandated institution no matter what that definition was. The government has no right, no place, and no business to be doing that.

  • No.

  • No. I think I deserve the same chance at that with my girlfriend.

  • I wouldn’t vote for it, but I do support the states getting to make this decision for themselves. I thought the US Constition ammendment proposal was stuuuuuupid.

  • “Marriage” is between a man and a woman, sure, but I think a similar union between same sex partners is equally valid and should have the same rights – and I think if they gave it a different name they could get conservatives off their backs.  I’m in Wisconsin.  I won’t be voting for the ban.

  • I can’t vote, but if I could vote, I daresay I would not support such a restriction.

  • Although I would probably vote for it, I would do it while voting for those who will actually spend their time working on the more important issues. There’s a war going on. Our economy is becoming more and more dependent on outsourcing. Osama et al is still running around. And etc. I wish we’d spend less of our time being so bamboozled by these “social morality” issues that we forget that those who harp on them using them to distract us from seeing that they screwing up just about everything else.

  • I would vote against it, without hesitation.  Marriage is about love, not what gender you are.  I don’t understand why this country has SO many freedoms, but one of them ISN’T the freedom to marry the person you’re in love with.  That’s terrible.

  • I don’t feel like we can legislate someone’s bedroom. I know the argument people will make against me, here, is that we already do. (We are not allowed to marry cousins, etc.) Of course, and I agree with this. When relatives marry and children are produced, there can be mental and physical defects due to the closeness of the genes in the genepool. We have proven the harm this type of marriage causes.

    Have we done the same with homosexual marriages? Have we proven the harm they cause?

    I think not, and there is a reason.

    Posted 10/1/2006 at 9:35 AM by Krissy_Cole
     
    AIDS, I win.

  • How sad to fight about Love.

    I say let people love and get married.
    I am married not by a god or religion. We were married by a licensed officiant from an Ethical Society- in a nice ceremony with friends and family, in an outside garden. We celebrated that evening with great food and conversation in a huge artists studio.
    A brilliant day- 10 years back.

    Tell me that it doesn’t count. Tell me my marriage is not as good or strong or valid as anyone elses?

    Gay or Straight- Love is love…
    It knows no laws.

  • Love is blind to gender, race, age, weight or anything else you can throw in it’s path.

  • Yes I will, and RYC, thanks   it worked for me yesterday haha

  • The government should only have control over civil unions, not religious marriages.

    I would sink any amendment, especially one that actually bans it.

  • So let’s just sneeze on the Constitution. It’s only paper, right?
    Show me any constitutional amendment precedent besides the failure of Prohibition which has tried to legislate morality.
    Almost all amendments are beneficiary to the citizens. What benefit is there to restrict marriage?

  • Yes … so crystal clear, “between a man and woman!”

  • No! I have yet to hear a decent argument against same-sex marriage!
    Don’t say “God says it’s wrong.” What God tells you is irrelevant to how I lead MY life. This country was founded on the concept of religious freedom. If you don’t like it- leave.
    Don’t say “It will open the door for polygamy, beastiality, and pedophilia.” It won’t do so any more than when an interracial couple was permitted to marry.
    Don’t say “Homosexuality is unnatural and wrong.” Science strongly suggests that sexual orientation is predetermined by genes before we are even born.

  • I don’t feel like we can legislate someone’s bedroom. I know the argument people will make against me, here, is that we already do. (We are not allowed to marry cousins, etc.) Of course, and I agree with this. When relatives marry and children are produced, there can be mental and physical defects due to the closeness of the genes in the genepool. We have proven the harm this type of marriage causes.

    Have we done the same with homosexual marriages? Have we proven the harm they cause?

    I think not, and there is a reason.
    Posted 10/1/2006 at 9:35 AM by Krissy_Cole AIDS, I win.
    Posted 10/1/2006 at 11:21 AM by inaudible_yelling

    Straight people get and give AIDS too.

  •  AIDS, I win.
    Posted 10/1/2006 at 11:21 AM by inaudible_yelling
     
    Dear, dear. I fear we have not done our research on AIDS. It is not a byproduct of homosexuality. That is a misnomer. Do your research. Find out the true reason AIDS spread. The idea that it came from homosexuals was a belief widely held in the 1980s when people knew so little about the disease, and feared it so much, they would refuse to even say its name.
     
    So, no. You have not won yet. (As if that is what this thread is about.)

  • i’m a strong christain, but one of my best friends is gay. if he decides that he wnats to get married to someone, i wouldnt want him to be denied love.
    but then again, the bible does say homosexuality is a sin.
    therefore, i dont think i would vote on that matter.

  • Hell no.

    That’s not something the state needs to decide.

  • No way in Hell. If two people find love, who are we to keep them from fullfilling their wishes. Homosexuals don’t get married just so they have a reason to stick their tongue out at others. They marry for the same reasons as anyone who isn’t gay or lesbian. So why the hell is it anyone else’s business? Besides, the only reasoning against it is that it goes against God. Well guess what? I don’t think God should have anything to do with the Constitution.  Seperation of church and state. Or has that part of the constitution been forgotten?

  • And I AM straight by the way. So there isn’t a biast opinion.

  • I would not. Here’s my question that i ask everyone who opposes gay marriage: How will it effect me? The answer is it won’t effect anyone except for homosexuals. so why care?

  • This country wasn’t founded for religious freedom la_faerie_joyeuse…it was founded on Christianity.  Proof?  Okay.  Get a dollar bill out of your pocket & flip it over.  It says “In God We Trust”.  Yes, this country did include that religion should not be something that you can be killed for, as it was in England and elsewhere before all of our ancestors migrated over to make a better life.  However, I am convinced that it is our honoring of God in this country as it was founded that makes it such a great place.  However, by trying to squeeze God out, you destroy the best thing about it.  People who are Christian are not perfect, but we strive to be.  We long to be as good as Christ is.  Christ always loved, always cared for, always fed the people…and He never justified evil…even though the Bible does say that Jesus forgave sinners of their sins, He never said it was okay, He just said that He FORGAVE THEM!  (Forgiveness implying there was a reason to forgive)  We do not claim to be perfect, but God is working in us because we ACKKNOWLEDGE HIM, something our own Creator is not out of line to want.  Therefore, as history illustrates both in the Bible, and in other forms of real history, if you do not learn from the past, you will be doomed to repeat it. 

  • Dan could you post the percentages of us voting here? I’m curious to know what the Xanga demographic says.

  • If they’re going to follow all the laws from that part of the Bible, let’s see how people would react to these:

    Mullets, Mohawks, and Goatees would be punishable by banishment.

    Children who do not obey their parents and disrespect them are to be taken to the capitol and stoned.

    Polyester and other blend fabrics would not be legal.

    Adulterers are to be hung. (OK, I agree with this law.)

    Bacon, Calamari, and Sausage would be banned by the FDA.

    If you’re going to follow one part of the Bible, you better follow it all! It does make a slight note of  2 men sleeping together in the new testament, but the issue at hand there was actually prostitution. But just try to tell a Christian that.

    That particular item is up for vote in my state, and I registered to vote just so I could shoot it down. Even if you don’t approve of the lifestyle, don’t vote to add a constitutional ammendment on it, because they may just be taking away the rights of homosexuals this time, but next time they could be taking away *your* rights. The law is made to protect its citizens not push a particular moral agenda.

  • No. I don’t understand why people concern themselves so much with preventing other people from being happy. If Sally marries Jane, the relationship between Bill and Jill won’t be affected in the least.

    It’s funny how 4 out of 5 Baptist divorcees want gays to stop undermining the sanctity of marriage.

    Stop being a hypocrite.

  • Okay…I understand now why one should not try to speak wisdom to a fool.  They only attack & slander & make false, out of context arguments.  When the end comes, the truth will be known once & for all.  Until then, we all only have opportunity to find it.  That doesn’t mean everyone will try to find it…I’m done. 

  • Of the comments I read, everyone who has answered “yes” gives no reasoning for their answer besides the Bible.  The people who have answered “no” have.

    It’d be pretty ridiculous if an amendment passes without any logical reasoning.

  • love is love is love. no way around it. its a free country people, if you don’t like gay people, don’t leave your house and forever become a recluse, or just learn to deal with it.

  • “Seperation of church and state. Or has that part of the constitution been forgotten?”

    That concept is NOT in the Constitution.  Read it for yourself.

  • Nope.

    I’m glad I live in Canada where we don’t take away people’s right to love.

  • “I’m glad I live in Canada where we don’t take away people’s right to love.”

    No one’s right to “love” is being taken away.

  • NO! And to all those people citing the bible, HELLOOOO! Separation of church and state. What the hell?

  • yes. always. that’s what i believe is right. but i also believe that our world is changing and alot of things aren’t right these days and maybe the law will allow it. but its still wrong

  • I’m all for traditional marriage, but against gay couples being disadvantaged simply for being gay.  If the amendment included same sex civil partnerships/unions then I would vote against it.  Any couple should have protection of their basic human right to maintain a family life enjoying the same rights and privileges as others but would personally prefer this to be in the form of a legal civil partnership.  But I’m funny like that - don’t like things being redefined to fit current ideas or fashion, even if justified.  I’m thinking of some cars being reclassified as trucks to get around manufacturers economy targets, or tomatoes being reclassified as fruit to get around import duties. Save “marriage” for a “man and wife” if they wish, civil partnerships for everyone else including heterosexual couples who don’t wish to marry for whatever reason.

    Great site. 

  • Nope.

  • yes, I surely would.

    Cowboy

  • The only problem that I have is how messed up it is for man and woman.

    It really appauls me how little value and integrity goes in to marriage these days.

    Let’s not forget when the marriage fails and there are children involved.

  • Ew, no. 

    We’d better work on banning mixed fibers first, because the lame Bible says so.

    Hahahaha…people are so stupid sometimes.

  • Electing officials, for example, is supposed to be decideed by majority vote.

    Civil rights, however, are supposed to be decided separately, and not by majority vote since deciding civil rights by majority vote may involve something called majoritarian tyranny, in such contexts.

    Example:  Used to be that it was okay for the majority (whites) to be racist, withhold the right to vote, and so on…

    Saying that gay marriage is against God’s law (as I’ve seen here) indicates that civil rights are not only being decided by majority vote, the incorrect venue, but also upon some religious values which may conflict with those of some of their neighbors. 

    Two wrongs do not a right make.

    Trying to justify prejudice with religion makes it … still prejudice.  People quoted the bible to defend slavery and so on too…

  • Well Texas *did* vote last year.  I wasn’t going to vote for or against… until I tried to drop my God-daughter off at school and was harrassed by lesbians waving signs in my face and telling me to stop “persecuting” them.  Excuse me?  Fine loser, I’ll vote against you just for spite.  FYI, harrassing people outside of voting places is illegal….

  • “Seperation of church and state. Or has that part of the constitution been forgotten?
    Posted 10/1/2006 at 12:37 PM by headintheclouds23
     
    That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen posted on here.  Can you show us where that is found in the constitution?  Pretty please?  Since you love quoting things that *aren’t really there*!!!
     
    LMAO!!!
     
    Thanks for the hillarious comment!

  • I would vote no without hesitaton. Love is love. Why should marriage be just for heterosexuals? People try to say that allowing gay “marriage” will ruin traditional marriage; hell, haven’t we straight people fucked it up enough? Divorce rates have never been higher from what I’ve heard. I don’t think that there’s anything special about a word.

    I don’t care who you love, you deserve to be able to get married, and to have the same benefits as any other consensual, serious, long term relationship.

  • “It’d be pretty ridiculous if an amendment passes without any logical reasoning.”

    Actually, it’s pretty ridiculous that so many of you spout off your mouths here, but don’t even pay attention to things that have already been voted, discussed, decided, etc.  Thanks for proving ignorance!

  • Gezz,People these days are so weird..I think it’s just wrong.You can’t create babies with gayness?All you can do is adopt..which sucks.I hope in the future there aren’t a shortage of people in america because of that.Feel shame.

  • I would vote against it. Who are we to tell people who they can and cannot love? I think that’s comepletly arrogant of people. There’s no reason for gay marriage to be banned, love is love, it knows no age, color, race, or orientation. The love I have for a guy can easily be had by two men or two women. My love is the same as two women and two men, except my love is directed towards the opposite sex, yet it’s still the same damn emotion and feeling.

  • “Tennessee is one of those states voting. I will vote yes to define marriage constitutionally as the union between one man and one woman. It is not an anti-gay vote! It is a vote to preserve this institution and the core family itself. I disagree with your contention that not many conservatives will turn out. Our ranks are swelling and a lot of folks are going to be surprised in November when we still have a Republican house and senate. Of course, the Southern Baptist Convention and the Church of Christ are beating the drums very hard. It will be a Republican day in Tennessee!
    Posted 10/1/2006 at 3:46 AM by paoguy118″

    How is it NOT an anti-gay vote? The whole point of this amendment is to either take away or prevent the right of a gay couple to be wed…. but that’s not anit-gay, right? (insert sarcasm here) And how would such a amendment “preserve” an institution that many heterosexual people of many races and nationalities from all walks of life have pretty much wrecked themselves? It’s not “‘Till death do you part” and has not been for a long, long time – how does that “preserve” the “core family” when the father or mother decides they’ve had enough? All the talk of “preserving the sacred institution of marriage and protecting the core family” is nothing more than a very thin disguise for enacting anit-gay legislation. And how would a gay marriage or civil union destroy a heterosexual marriage anyhow? I’m not feeling any sudden urges to walk away from my marriage nor would I gay marriages were accepted and made valid by the government. Which brings me to yet another question: Since when should the goverment decide what a marriage is or is not anyhow? Last time I checked – and what all of you right-winged “Christians” claim – marrigae is a religious ceremony and what the government legislates is what is refer to as a civil union. Again, all semantics really since once either one is done, the resulting couple is a legal entity.

  • No effing way!!!! Marriage is love.

  • I want the gay/lesbian community to be happy, but if they adopted a child, I think they’d need a role model of either gender. Plus the kid would get ridiculed in school and if the kid was the opposite gender of the 2 parents, how would they have ‘the talk’? Plus there’s advice on love and everything, and they may not like the same gender…

    I’m just not sure it’s humane to do to a kid. If 2 gay/lesbian people want to marry, they can have at it. Just don’t know about their kid(s).

  • Funny, that states with awful economies are literally going to be driving out talented, productive members of society because they (the majority in a given state) are bigots. So rich states like New York and California will get richer, and poor states, on their own incentive, will help pauperize themselves.  Keep it up, geniuses.

  • if specific religioins want to restrict it, that should ultimately be left up to them, but gay marriage should be recognized by our government. single sex marriages could be done justice of the pece and along those lines. if it were up to me, i would say religions shouldn;t prohibit it either, but that would be impossible..

  • “I want the gay/lesbian community to be happy, but if they adopted a child, I think they’d need a role model of either gender.  Plus the kid would get ridiculed in school and if the kid was the opposite gender of the 2 parents, how would they have ‘the talk’?”

    Well, I guess this means every single mother with a dead beat ex-husband/boyfriend who refuses to help in raising their son is in jeopardy of screwing the poor kid up for good.  She should not be able to raise him then. 

    Also, kids raised by straight parents NEVER get ridiculed in school.  Kids get picked on for anything.  I got picked on because I had red hair and freckles.  Should my parents not have conceived me because I was destined to get picked on?  Give me a break.

  • Marriage is between a man and a woman. Look it up in the Bible. If God had thought another man would have been a suitable companion for Adam, He wouldn’t have given him Eve. Adam would have gotten Adam #2 and then none of us would be here discusing this.

  • Okay, to all those people saying banning gay ‘marriage’ would ban Love, I wish to say your stupid or something equally insulting. But that wouldn’t be nice. niether would be picking on my spelling.

    If you want to live in a homosexual realtionship, apparently you can do that with out being married, as proven by many non-gay/non-lesbian couples. Are going to tell me they don’t claim to love each other? I am not saying I like this type of relationship. But apparently you don’t have to be married to live together.

  • No way.

  • no. defining a relationship between two people does not make their love for each other any “realer”. thus, banning gay marriages does not make their love “fake” or take it away. they will still love each other no matter what you say. then why not let them be married and enjoy what their happiness. we must accept that other people have different lifestyles than ourselves. freedom to the people. all people of all types.

  • Again, just as I said about the abortion question a couple of days back– I don’t think it MY right to decide what is best for someone else.  I would NEVER vote in favor of a contsitutional amendment that would give marriage such a narrow definition.  Make it legal for a man and a man or a woman and a woman to get married and then let the men and women of our country decide for themselves with whom they want to get married.

    On a side note, someone mentioned children in their comment; so, here are my thoughts: I see MANY children in my office (I am a social worker) who are living with their married-man-and-woman-parents in an environment where they are witnessing domestic violence, drug use, and other crimes in their own living room on a daily basis.  I would feel MUCH better, in many cases, sending these kiddos straight from my office over to stay with my neighbors (two gay men who have been together in a loving relationship for about 4 years) than I do about sending them home. . .

  • FUCK NO! That would be just another example of the lack of seperation of Chruch and State in our Country. That law would be nothing more than a bible belt, closed minded, bigoted way of life. Fuck that Shit.

  • no

  • I woudl for nay on that ammendment. This is a hot button issue, but it isn’t really constitution worthy. IT is also far more of a religous thing than a government thing. As far as the paperwork is concerned who cares if it is two people of the same or oposite gender? Just because a person loves someone of hte same gender, they deserve less rights (the right to be a spose/depenedent at all for health care, etc?)

  • I think we should allow gay marriage but call it something else say joining.
    I know it’s just slapping another name on it but God doesn’t say  two men cannot be joined.

  • bwahaha.. that will be my very first election and it will be a big NO to homosexual marriage.

  • No. Never. Voting for that amendment would be dessicrating the already semi-dessicrated seperation of church and state. Religion is not constition!

  • Absolutely not. For years, interracial marriage was completely unacceptable as well. This is Marriage Controversy version 2.0. This country is supposed to separate church and state. People’s personal beliefs should have no bearing on whether or not something is illegal. Heck, striaght people aren’t the ones marrying their own gender, so it’s really none of their business. People thing homosexuals shouldnt marry because they can’t reproduce. That’s fine. Old people and women who can’t conceive and men who are impotent can’t marry either. Oh that’s wrong? Hypocrites!

    Sorry…I totally went off on a rant there.

  • i would never vote for something like that. ever.

  • “Who are we to tell people who they can and cannot love?”

    That’s not what the amendment is about.  No one is telling anyone whom they can and cannot love. 

  • “Funny, that states with awful economies are literally going to be driving out talented, productive members of society”

    No one will be ”literally” driven out of a state.  Gay couples might choose to leave an unacceptable situation, and the states may be stabbing themselves in the foot economically, but no one is being driven from a state. 

  • Way to push-poll the audience, dildo.
    I think I really will kill you.
    That would be FABULOUS, actually.

  •  > Nope

    Peace on it all!

  • Is it really anybody’s business who you marry?  I thought marriage was about love?  And why do Christians think they own the concept of marriage?  It doesn’t affect you…when two people, regardless of gender, want to get married because they love eachother.  I think gay marriage should be legal.

  • Well, I probably wouldn’t vote in favor of gay marriage, but if it were to pass (that gays and lesbians could legally marry), I would still respect them and their decision. If they love each enough, they will find a way to be together for the rest of their lives.

  • Thank you for pointing out the second sentance of the ban!!

    This ban is not just about marriage, in fact it’s hardly about marriage. Marriage is already defined in WI state statues as being between a man and a woman. The intent of this ban is to prohibit families that do not look like traditional families (defined as two parents-a married man and woman with children born of their marriage) from exercising rights and responsibilities that support families.

    This ban has the potential to weaken domestic violence laws (it’s happened in other states), prevent health insurance providers from offering coverage to children who’s parents are not married, and put the future of children in jeporady should a biological parent pass away.

    If this ban is approved, WI will be writting inequality into the constitution. I find this completly unacceptable. I will be voting NO on Nov. 7!!!

    A Fair Wisconsin Votes NO. Please Vote NO on Nov. 7.

  • No.

    Homosexuals deserve that right.

  • Only if there was some sort of legal substitute for homosexuals.  I think marriage should be defined as between a man and a woman, but the legal benefits of marriage should not be withheld from homosexuals.  So I think there should be unions that make a legal bond between a man and a man, or a woman and a woman.  And those lgal benefits should be the same as a marriage, just without the title of marriage. 

    By the way, I am a God loving and fearing Christian, and I think homosexuality is a sin.  But I also don’t think its a Christian’s job to turn sin into law.  Doing that could only breed hate and resentment toward the God we want everybody to come to know.  We need to spread the Gospel by showing the world God’s love, not by showing them our political strength. 

  • No, truthfully I don’t think I would. Love is something shared between two people, know matter what the gender is. That should be respected instead of shunned.

  • “That’s not what the amendment is about.  No one is telling anyone whom they can and cannot love.  “

    But some people would like to be able to join together in a marriage to show their love.

  • “Gezz,People these days are so weird..I think it’s just wrong.You can’t create babies with gayness?All you can do is adopt..which sucks.I hope in the future there aren’t a shortage of people in america because of that.Feel shame.”

    A SHORTAGE? A SHORTAGE OF PEOPLE? Um, isn’t the world becoming a little too populated? Well, I don’t know, but anyway, a shortage of people is no reason to be against gay marriage. Pfft.

    And to all the people who are basically.. for love, against gay marriage? What if they would like to adopt a child? Think about it. Without legally being married, the child goes under one name. And if something bad happens to that parent, things get complicated, and the other parent may not have.. well.. custody. That’s a shame.

    “Marriage is between a man and a woman. Look it up in the Bible. If God had thought another man would have been a suitable companion for Adam, He wouldn’t have given him Eve. Adam would have gotten Adam #2 and then none of us would be here discusing this.”

    Sorry to rain on your parade, but not everyone believes in the bible. Who’s to say that the bible completely controls us and love?

    “Okay, to all those people saying banning gay ‘marriage’ would ban Love, I wish to say your stupid or something equally insulting. But that wouldn’t be nice. niether would be picking on my spelling.

    If you want to live in a homosexual realtionship, apparently you can do that with out being married, as proven by many non-gay/non-lesbian couples. Are going to tell me they don’t claim to love each other? I am not saying I like this type of relationship. But apparently you don’t have to be married to live together.”

    Read above. It’s a way of showing their love. If straight couples can show their love in that way, why can’t gay couples?

    “AIDS, I win.”

    Wait, what? Wait.. no. I’m.. confused. Have you ever been to an eighth grade health class? AIDS isn’t only spread through homosexuality, my goodness.

    “Um, Yeah! duh! i dont want to be in a public place & then there are gay ppl. who wants to see that? & when i have kids, i dont want them to see that! eww! “

    Okay, no. Don’t imply that homosexuality is something that’s “gross”. It’s love, my god.

    “It isn’t “love”, it’s a peverted form of lust.”

    Are you gay? Have you ever been in love? You can’t say it’s not love. You don’t know.

  • No way!!!!!!!!!! Gay people should sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo be allowed to marry. Where are their rights? It’s not even like they chose to be gay, right?

  • Never. Gay and lesbian marriage is somethign that needs to be allowed in this country already…how can we still be so childish…

  • the bible screws with people’s heads.

    vote common sense!

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