April 27, 2010
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Noah’s Ark Found?
Chinese and Turkish explorers believe they fave found Noah’s Ark. They found the Ark 13,000 ft in a mountain.
The reasearch team said it is not 100% but they are “99.9 per cent” sure that it is Noah’s Ark. Here is the link: Link
If they found Noah’s Ark, would it increase your faith in the Bible?
Comments (132)
I doubt anyone’s oppinion of the scriptures will be changed by this.
nope.
OMG!!!!
Was I really first?
Of course not.
dont think so
Not really. Lol.
Nah!
No, but it would be pretty cool. But how can you prove it really is the Ark?
I wonder if that is in the same place that they thought they found it from the air…. but it was on top of a mountain. I don’t think it was reachable. hmmm
No.
nah. the bible is just a buncha whooey balooie.
How awesome, but I’m not getting my hopes up. Too many scams going around.
But if it were true, the usual gang of suspects who always demand empirical proof of all things biblical, would simply hallucinate an alternate reality where the facts mean nothing.
Nope.
Besides, how can they come to the conclusion that it was actually Noah’s?
They found a boat, (maybe). What makes them think this is Noah’s Ark? How would you prove something like that anyway. The link says this first thing: “A group of Chinese and Turkish evangelical explorers say they have found wooden remains on Mount Ararat in eastern Turkey. There’s one word in that sentence that casts suspicion on everything, evangelical.
No.
I’d like to see the out come.
If the Ark is 4,800 years old, as said in the link which claims to have already done some form of carbon dating and verified it, where is the evidence of a global flood 4,800 years ago?
I don’t know that it would increase my faith, but it is certainly interesting. I wouldn’t call myself Christian, but I do beleive that there is something bigger than myself and that there is good and evil in the world. It wouldn’t change how I view my faith though.
I dunno. I almost wonder if it is Noah’s Ark, that someone will come along with “proof” that the Flood wasn’t real or as extensive as depicted in the Bible. Then again, it would probably be like a lot of scientific “proofs” against the Bible: unscientific claptrap that requires even more faith than just believing in a Divine Being.
People have supposedly found Noah’s Ark before as well, so I’m a bit skeptical this is really it.
Probably doesn’t do anything to other people’s faith, but it does kind of help bolster mine.
Nope.
@Da__Vinci - I would like to assert that in the Bible, the Ark had substantial measurements. perhaps if the ark was still whole enough to render the same dimensions, it may be the real one.
Mt Ararat to be exact as that what in the bilble
Maybe a little, but not really. I believe in an old earth and I believe in a local flood. If anyone wants to debate that, read David Snoke’s book “A Biblical Case For an Old Earth” first.
How do they know if it’s the real ark? What if it’s just some ark?
No.
@Da__Vinci - @polishswede - @randomneuralfirings - @schallerbrandon -
First of all, I’m doubting that such an ark exist, regardless of what I’m about to say.
In the Bible, there exist highly specific details about the size, shape, and composition of said Ark. Since we have a fairly good idea of what a cubit is, we know how long, deep, and wide the Ark was supposed to be as well as what tress were used to build it as well as any other items such as pitch and rope. Furthermore, I believe there would be signs of former animal life on this Ark, possibly remains of creatures not meant to be there?
Scientifically speaking, there is solid evidence of a localized flood in that region. A world wide flood would be impossible to survive unless you were a fish. Theoretically, for the entire globe to be covered in water in less than a day’s time the humidity would have to be pretty extreme. The lowest level of atmosphere, that being the part we breathe in, would be saturated in water to the point that a single breath of it would drown any individual. Ergo, had such an extreme thing occurred, chances are Noah and his three sons and all their wives including the animals would have drown on the first day simply by breathing in air that was 400 to 500% humid.
Also, in a literary sense, imagine a normal human living back in that time period. Since we didn’t discover that the world was round until, what?, the 1400′s? (don’t quote me on that), it’s safe to say that the people in this region were rather ignorant of their worldly existence. Ergo, if a flood did occur, as we know it did, they would have recorded it as a world wide flood given their very limited span of knowledge and understanding. I would expect such an exaggeration given that 98% of the people then couldn’t read or write and of the 2% that could, less than 1% were actually what they considered “intelligent”. You do the math.
13,000 ft.?……. That’s fairly high up for a hoax. At any rate, this is interesting but certainly not pivotal.
We’ll have to wait and see if it’s the Christian equivalent to Piltdown man.
Fools! Noah’s Ark is located in Wisconsin Dells.
Hell no.
^ lol.
However, if proof was found that there is in fact a God (and a Christian god at that) then my faith would sky rocket.
I’ll be waiting.
Hmm. I suppose this would in fact change everything.
There have been claims to finding the Ark since the 90s, if not earlier. I doubt the validity of this. However, if there truly is a boat up in the mountains, that would probably explain why every culture seems to have its own Flood story.
Well, I suppose if they found Noah’s boat license in there as well…
The article said they were “evangelical archeologists.” No wonder they think it is the ark. The “evidence” presented in the article also isn’t convincing. Wooden beams that indicate areas of the boat were used to hold animals? Most boats of that time carried livestock for a fresh source of food.
Plus there is some geological evidence that a flood (not global) DID occur at that time, but that in no way proves the story that “god” told a guy named noah to build an ark which he used to carry 2 of each animal that existed. In fact, it’s not surprising that there’s a flood story in the bible if something so catastrophic did happen. Religions tend to make explanations for natural disasters. Not to mention that water levels, coastlines, and land elevations have changed a lot in the past 5000 years.
So no, I don’t think this makes the bible more believable. Jesus was a historical figure that existed, but that doesn’t mean everyone believes he was the son of god. There may be evidence that a flood occurred, but that doesn’t mean the noah’s ark bible story is true.
Boat! Flood! 13,000ft? Neat trick!
It doesn’t matter to my faith if we can find Noah’s Ark or not. As others have suggested proving it was Noah’s Ark would be nearly impossible. I believe whether we can find an old boat or not.
@Da__Vinci - PervyPenguin - But, having a large boat stuck in a mountain seems odd. I don’t know that it is the Ark or it isn’t, but the boat got in the mountain somehow. It could be possible that the mountain wasn’t a mountain when the boat got beached there, but it could also suggest a huge flood.
@schallerbrandon - Well, a boat stuck in a mountain would be evidence of a flood I would think. See above for the rest on that.
LAWL! Two words: confirmation bias.
If I recall correctly, Noah’s ark was found when I was in elementary school. xDD
@schallerbrandon - If the Ark is 4,800 years old, as said in the link which claims to have already done some form of carbon dating and verified it, where is the evidence of a global flood 4,800 years ago?
Well, you might start with a big ass boat 13,000 feet up a high ass mountain.
Nice source.
@LoBornlytesThoughtPalace - LOL! And the mountain being Ararat also, sounds consistent with the scriptures! But like you said, I want further confirmation.
@MagisterTom - These are explorers, not a archeologists. They don’t even know what they have yet, their bias has blinded them.
Don’t care either way. The book is a nasty weapon, in the wrong hands and whether it is true or literal or not doesn’t change that.
Lol, according to “evangelical archaeologists?” Right… Like they wouldn’t believe that any old fucking huge boat that they found was the ark.
But, if they’re so sure, then surely they won’t have a problem cramming two of every animal onto it… Will they? Because if it is the ark, and evolution is bullshit like they claim, it should be no problem… Right?
lololol
@MagisterTom - @LoBornlytesThoughtPalace - If that much water existed, there will surely be evidence other than the boat.
If they find a carving in the wood of the boat that says “Noah wuz here.” I’ll be sold.
@LoBornlytesThoughtPalace - It’s not the fact of whether or not the boat and Noah existed. It’s the idea of a world wide flood and all the animals in the world fitting in it. By it, I mean the ark.
I think it would be cool if this is the actual Ark.
@xplodinglastbullet - Exactly.
Wrong! It is Utnapishtim’s Ark. From the actual flood epic that predates the Old Testament, that of the Deluge in Babylonian Mythology. How dare they defile the ark of Utnapishtim with Noah’s Johnny-Come-Lately name.
Does it smell like rotted animal shit?
I think everyone is always looking for a little validation in folklore, or urban legends, or the bible for that matter, but I am skeptial that they could ever prove that it is Noah’s Ark.
Plenty of religions have a flood story, so there would be no reason that finding a supposed “ark” would prove the bible. Why would that validate the bible over any other ridiculous religion out there?
It’s really the S. S. Minnow. Gilligan really screwed up that three hour tour.
@schallerbrandon - You’re absolutely right. Allow me to join you in your skepticism. The whole stinks as far as I’m concerned.
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@AubreyBird - I think you raise a couple interesting points, but you may have overlooked one thing. At 300 cubits, (either 17.5 inches or 20.5 inches per cubit), the ark was between 437 and 512 feet in length, built by hand, and was about 120 years in the making.
The issue is, how did Noah know a global flood was coming 120 years before it happened? This suggests quite a bit of fore-knowledge on his part.
Food for thought.
@JosephParsons - ummm, i don’t believe he did…i said i don’t believe in the noah story.
just b/c a boat was found does not mean it was “the ark.”
@AubreyBird - I was just getting at the shear size of the vessel ‘as described’ is extraordinary to have been built at the time period, and the account gives a 120 year figure, so if those details are accurate (assume for the moment they were) that would have required foreknowledge, don’t you think?
I doubt this is the actual ark, by the way.
@JosephParsons - Who said foreknowledge was necessary to build a big boat? If flood waters rose, boats already floating would just rise with it.
No it wouldn’t. I already believed it was there.
@AubreyBird - It’s not that it would be necessary to perform the construction, but rather, that it would be necessary to want to commit one’s self to a 120 year project for an event that had never been seen before.
Ha. No.
I anxiously await further info than this blurb in the Sun gives. From that pic, he could be in a barn.
nope.
@AubreyBird - I agree with you, great comment
Fundies say the darnest things.
@JosephParsons - First, people have undergone large projects all throughout history; often times they weren’t completed within the original architect’s lifetime. I don’t think people would need to anticipate a flood to undergo a large project like building a big boat.
Secondly, I have a hard time believing it took 120 years to build. Even the great pyramid of giza only took around 20 years. Sure it may have been big, but who said there weren’t a lot of people working on it? Perhaps it was commissioned by someone who had a lot of labor at their disposal.
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Even though it should affect people’s opinions, i doubt it would.
@AubreyBird - We Don’t know of course, so we must lean on the accounts, but they seem to indicate that, far from being interested in helping him, he seemed to have become the laughing stock of the community for a very long time. The account only lends his three sons as helpers while every one else seemed to be calling him a fool… ‘who ever heard of a flood,’ they seemed to have thought.
Of course, this isn’t the only account of a global flood to look at. About fifteen years ago I watched a documentary pointing out 243 different accounts or references to a global flood from cultures of antiquity all around the world. Those would be good to look at too, I’m sure you would agree, not only the Biblical account.
@JosephParsons - if anything, that only proves my point; though biblical stories can be based in fact, that doesn’t make the bible stories themselves true (i.e. there may have been a flood, but noah and his ark may just be a story). There are tons of stories of a flood, like in the Epic of Gilgamesh, but that isn’t enough proof to say the bible is more believable. This article is biased (“evangelical archeologists”???) and the evidence provided doesn’t prove the bible story, only that a flood may have occurred.
I’m skeptical about this find to say the least — more research plox.
As for whether it would change my opinion of the Bible if they could prove that this is the actual ark… probably not.
i’m kinda impressed that the thing can teleport itself around the world so much that so many different people can find it in different places. must be a miracle. like jesus showing up on my toast this morning.
@AubreyBird - The totality of the accounts and their similarities coming from so many different places and cultures world-wide lends some weight to the over-all belief in a global flood, regardless if one sees more credibility in one account over another. Although for example I may favor the Biblical account, I find the Mayan account not only informative but fascinating. Having said that, it still doesn’t make a lot of sense for Noah to spend 120 years getting laughed at while building a 437+ foot long ocean liner of antiquity in the middle of the Euphrates Valley, unless he had some idea that a global flood was coming (foreknowledge).
I give you the last word… (see Dan? I can do it).
Besides, Lost is almost on. Fun chatting with you
@JosephParsons - Your belief seems to be driven by faith; I only look at evidence (not that there’s anything wrong with faith). Plenty of STORIES were written about a flood probably because each of these cultures experienced a horrific flood–there is SOME geological evidence supporting that. Navel vessels of all sizes were built all the time b/c people wanted to be able travel by water. These vessels often carried livestock to provide fresh food during journeys. A boat was found on a mountain. None of that verifies the biblical story of noah being a REALLY old geezer who build a big ark to carry every single type of animal b/c god told him he was going to flood the earth. This biased article did nothing to prove anything but the possible existence of a flood.
But thanks for the last word; have fun watching lost!:P
faith by its own definition is belief in what cannot be proven. if it takes proof for you to believe, that is NOT faith!
where are the animals?
Um, there’s basically nothing (short of some insane miracle) that could change my position on God and the Bible at the moment.
I’m not surprised if this really is. I have enough faith in the Bible, with or without this ark’s physical evidence.
Sidenote: even if this really is Noah’s Ark, I doubt it’ll change other people’s skepticism towards the Bible: people believe what they want to believe.
My faith in the Bible doesn’t need to be strengthened. Its already fully there. But this is interesting, as i find Noah’s Ark EXTREMELY fascinating.
@LauraG0929 - Actually, the fact that there are SO many flood stories which all are basically the same VALIDATES the flood account. It doesn’t in any way, shape, or form discredit it. To say that it does is pure lunacy.
@AubreyBird - Well said!
Even if the bible was indeed God’s word, or truthful… it doesn’t mean that I’d agree with all of it. So, it doesn’t matter.
Kinda reminds me of this video (which also is not in English, but has subtitles).
http://www.americaneedsfatima.org/Articles/amazing-video-eucharist-is-our-lord.html
There is already evidence of a world-wide flood – billions of dead things buried in rock layers laid down by water all over the earth.
But I can’t increase a faith that’s already 100%.
forget proving the ark existed, I want to see lions and gazelles and wolves and bunny rabbits and crocodiles and puppies all hanging out together and not ripping each other’s throats out the second they get a chance. if you can show me that, then maybe I’d consider listening to these “scientists” about the existence of the ark.
also, HOW FUCKING BIG do you think a boat would need to be to fit every kind of animal? and are we talking like EVERY species? because if people who believe the ark don’t believe in evolution, then you have to believe that every species of animal around now was around then… I really hope people don’t literally believe that they had one of every animal on the ark because you’d have to be retarded as fuck to buy that.
Anytime that an archeological discovery is made that supports the Bible it is awesome, but I have pretty strong faith in the Bible already.
Coincidence is possibly what it is.
What if, during the times, there was a major flooding and they simply built a giant ass boat.
Feels like I heard this 3-4 years ago. Oh wait, I did.
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no, but perhaps if I was fluent in Hebrew and had access to the oldest copy of the Pentateuch or fluent in Greek, with access to the oldest pre-Augustinian bible, there’d be more enthusiasm. But, in taking your post on it’s face, someone found something and not much more than that. History and scripture do intersect occasionally but otherwise have little to do with each other.
And the Qur’aan, yeah.
On another note, what great timing. My sister is playing a monkey in her school’s Noah’s Ark show in two hours.
Wait, how would they even know it’s Noah’s? Couldn’t it be any ark?
You know, I read a story about this several years ago, where researchers believed they had found the ark in (don’t get all over me on this, it’s been a long time, I’m pulling this out of the back of my head and it’s dusty there) muslim territory, and had actually wanted to send a research team to uncover it (for it is/was covered by masses of ice) but they never did get to because the country refused to let them.
Now whether or not this is the same boat on the same mountain in the same country, and they’re just digging it up again (or are finally allowed to investigate it), don’t ask me, but I think honestly, Jesus once told doubting Thomas “you have seen, and therefore you believe. Blessed are those who do not see, and believe”.
Faith is believing in something we cannot see. That means I don’t need the ark or the original ten commandments or whatever else to tell me God is real. Either He lets me believe, and I believe it without the desire to search for further facts other than The Bible, or I don’t believe at all. Physical evidence should not be necessary to strengthen faith. And in all honesty, I don’t really believe that finding the ark will lead any more people to God than the appearance of the anti-christ will. I mean, it says in revelation that they will even KNOW it’s God and be all “HOW DARE YOU! CURSE YOU!” and they will hate Him, even though they know it’s true. So how the ark is going to change peoples’ minds, I don’t know.
The short answer would be no. I believe in the Biblical account of the flood based upon the great amount of evidence for it. I don’t need to see a wooden boat to confirm it. Quite honestly, I have heard a great number of stories of people claiming to have found the ark before. I am skeptical but I won’t rule the possibility out either. Perhaps not the answer some would expect a Christian to come out with, but there you have it.
@Legendairy - I completely agree with you, as a Christian. =]]
@Da__Vinci - Chinese?
No,
besides, 99.9% rounded off to 99.999999999, you get the idea, is 100%. So pretty much, they’re telling you they found the ark.
Many believe that. Now that the theory. In reality nobody don’t know and will never know..Everybody searching for somethingun space and underground and guess what? it is within us…
ahh ha but what about the other cultures that have a flood at the same time as Noah?…Greeks, Hindus, a lot of other cultures have the same claim that there was a flood at the same time…I do beleive that there was a major flood at the time of Noah’s time period…and people did live longer in that age…and yes I would be more into my faith that the Bible is an early history of the Earth…but we have to wait for the outcome don’t we…Smile
No. I have no doubt that many if not most of the event described in the Bible are based on historical facts. As to the flood, there is no doubt about it because other cultural traditions describe it as well and there are physical evidences everywhere. I knew that before I ever left religion, but I left religion anyway. The history not withstanding, its the ideology I don’t believe and the control factors I don’t accept.
@AubreyBird - Damn, it was a rerun!
Didn’t they say that they were “99.9% sure” they found Jesus’s casket like four years ago?
I’m not buying it.
@AubreyBird - This! Oh man, that’s everything I could have hoped to say.
no, but then again, i already have complete faith in the Bible. I don’t trust people who say they found stuff like this though, b/c i think that they just want fame and fortune. (Look at Ron Wyatt)
@AubreyBird - People are still denying the existence of Jesus, yet between Islam, Christianity, and Judaism, he existed. In Christianity he is a deity, in Islam a prophet, and in Judaism not so much, but they do acknowledge he existed. And i will just add that depending on how you look at something, you can always rationalize it. This is why religion is based on faith, not science.
“Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.” –Albert Einstein
Sure it would.
no, but if they find a random bone in the desert somewhere and claim it belongs to a missing link, everyone would jump on the evolution band wagon.
Okay, it’s been found about 3 times now aye?
No.
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They Lost It?? They found it back in the 70′s and I think Lenny Nemoy even did In Search of Show about this.
i think so.
it would probably make for some good fire wood
No, it would mean that the world flooded and that they did just as they were told to by someone. I’d go look for that someone.
Unless someone brings directly in front of a real, living god, then I’ll believe. Otherwise, it’s just humans doing the pathetic control-thing again.
This is one of many discovered arks along with pods of people in small groups. Our special group that’s gone stale and never was anyway, just had a truth.
I can’t wait until we start burning Bibles. The Koran will suffice until humans give up on the whole argument or we get living gods again. At least the latter leaves room for them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kQMDSw3Aqo
@nidan - i think so too.
i already have plenty of faith in the bible, so this would be unneeded assurance more than anything.
No. I have no problem believing the bible. People did not even believe that Jesus was the Son of God when he told them to their faces. Why would they believe anyone today?
This is very interesting! As for my faith, well, my faith is very strong.
Not a single Indiana Jones reference anywhere! Shame on you people.
If they were able to prove this was THE ark, it would serve to validate that it did indeed happen. However, there are a lot of people who won’t accept any fact that validates any kind of religion . I mean, there are people out there who still believe the world is flat despite direct evidence to the contrary.
nope.
No
yup!
Ya don’t need to proof of the ark’s existence to have faith in the Bible. Faith, by definition, requires no proof.
finding the arc should not matter…
No.
How many cubits long?!
@LeftWristTwist - agreed. haha. sun news is always the reliable source to go.
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How many cubits is it!?!
No